tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-50851229833506018.post2973179284751087004..comments2020-05-26T20:40:24.126+01:00Comments on Kirsty Emma Graham: Do you see what I see?kirstyegrahamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00624555099403553771noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-50851229833506018.post-63854896554569211072017-04-24T13:53:53.961+01:002017-04-24T13:53:53.961+01:00Thanks so much for all the feedback! This is all g...Thanks so much for all the feedback! This is all going to be so helpful for selecting videos and setting up the experiment :-)kirstyegrahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00624555099403553771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-50851229833506018.post-75494621705761439952017-04-21T15:07:55.229+01:002017-04-21T15:07:55.229+01:00Hi Kirsty (and Cat)! I'm really looking forwar...Hi Kirsty (and Cat)! I'm really looking forward to the online experiment, and also the video database of gesture types. It will be especially helpful for young (but also "seasoned") researchers, especially those studying chimpanzee and/or bonobo gestural communication, and will be a nice supplement to Cat and Richard's published lexicon. I have been analysing chimpanzee behaviour recorded by camera traps (living in non-habituated communities and thus, not yet or well studied/observed) for over a year, and quite often see gestures where I wonder if it might be a widespread behaviour or instead possibly culturally unique to that particular community or population. Having a video database to refer to will be really helpful in exploring this, however depending on the size/scope of the project of course.<br /><br />I agree with Richard in that the shaky video example (1) looked more like the bonobo on the left was just trying to take food from the other's mouth, or rub the mouth area (it looks like a food item falls to the ground at the start of the clip, does the other individual drop it?). This clip was probably the most difficult for me to focus on due to the big shakes of the camera.<br /><br />In my opinion, the view from underneath the individuals is fine, at least better than the shaky camera, and looking past branches is even better (however, I might just have a lot of experience doing this and so be more comfortable with it?). <br /><br />For the experiment, I would suggest beginning with a few example/practice clips (where the gesture is not as easily visible, especially one through branches which is likely to be frequent) which could then lead to the active videos/questions. This way the participants have at least a small amount of experience exploring the clips where individuals and/or their movements are more challenging to see, and it also might provide a little confidence boost, especially for those who have never seen a primate gesture before!Kristin Havercampnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-50851229833506018.post-30547066693650072282017-04-19T11:45:25.060+01:002017-04-19T11:45:25.060+01:001. Shaky videos could be tricky; although the gest...1. Shaky videos could be tricky; although the gesture was visible in this particular one, there could be situations where gesturing is more and the camera shake will be distracting.<br />2. The angled video is problemmatic for me. Again, in this video I could see one gesture. But I will always have insecurity of missing out. It will also depend on the extent of being 'angled' though.<br />shreejatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05212039732672373000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-50851229833506018.post-23914523458377868822017-04-18T23:19:54.056+01:002017-04-18T23:19:54.056+01:00I see gestures in all of these, but then I am no e...I see gestures in all of these, but then I am no expert :) The camera work on clip one is very avant-garde ;)Carys Owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07520450662286017125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-50851229833506018.post-71834866858656968622017-04-18T19:00:28.105+01:002017-04-18T19:00:28.105+01:00I feel like I need some training in what you'r...I feel like I need some training in what you're looking for. For example, is video (2) a directed scratch? If so, I can see that fine, but not the supposed response. And which part of (4) do you think contains the candidate gesture?<br /><br />For (1) I wasn't sure that the leftmost bonobo wasn't just taking food from the central one's mouth. <br /><br />The infant's begging gesture in (3) was nice but it was the only one where I was sure I knew what I was looking at.Richard Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06655218875171389026noreply@blogger.com